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1. What have you found most challenging as a church leader?

There have always been difficult people in every assembly that I pastor since I started pastoral work in 1999. They are the people that do not obey the instructions, willing to antagonize any work you do. They live an unrighteous life, and are not ready to repent. Dealing with this kind of person is most challenging.

2. How did you become a church leader? Can you please briefly tell the story?

My church leadership started when I was appointed as an assistant Youth leader of my assembly in 1998, and this led to an understanding of my calling. In June 1998, I received a call as a full-time minister of the gospel. I began my seminary-trained in 1999, I started working in the local church as an evangelist. I have been blessed to serve in different local church settings learning hands-on while completing both of my degrees. In 2001, I was ordained as a certified pastor in Christ Apostolic Church worldwide, and this makes the leadership work expand.

3. How do you structure your work days from waking up to going to sleep?

Every day is not the same, yet it’s always my habit to sleep late in the night, sometimes I slept by 2.00 am or 3.00 am but I must wake up as early as 4.30 am for my devotion, sharing daily devotional prayer bombs on social media, then follow by family devotion, before we enter the church for morning service by 6.00 am. Because it is almost every day we are doing morning service in the church. As I manage meetings, attend to visitors, along with family and my time. My daily schedule is based on assignments on the ground for the day. Prayer in the night before going to bed.

4. What's one book apart from the Bible that has had a profound impact on your leadership so far? Can you please briefly tell the story of how that book impacted your leadership?

The one book apart from the Bible that has had a profound impact on my leadership is the book title: “There's a Miracle in Your House by Tommy Barnett. The book teaches me how to discover the potential and divine material that God endowed me with. It also opens my understanding of how to depend on God’s ability to sustain and provide for my needs with what I have. It is a book that triggers me not to depend on a man for my needs but depend on and trust in God for everything. When God shows you the miracle in the house, you won't have to look anywhere else. And that miracle in the house of every church leader is the gift that is deposited in us.

5. What's the most recent significant leadership lesson you've learned?

One recent leadership lesson I have learned is to be trustworthy. I learned that every leader should lead by example, be practical in everything we teach people. It is critically important to let others know where you stand on issues and never comprise the vision you have for the church or yourself. I also learned that; leaders are not the same in qualities and actions. Dealing straightforwardly with others is the key to trustworthiness.

6. How do you develop a healthy leadership pipeline in a church?

I adapt the servant-leadership style. My wife leads by example, and we allow people around us to be part of things we are doing – give them programs, allow people to have contributed to the thing we do. Equip others to become leaders and encourage them to use their gifts. I also motivate my congregation and teach them the true word of God.

7. What is one meaningful story that comes to mind from your time as a church leader so far?

One meaningful story that comes to mind as a church leader is the way people looked at me when I first came to the present church I’m pastoring, both the spiritual and physical aspect of the church is very low despite that the church is more than 70 years of establishment. I met the people in bad shape because they thought that nothing good can happen in their midst. After 366 days, the story was changed, and the members testified to the mighty hand of God in their midst both spiritually, physically and numerically. The pastor that I took over from came back after 2 years, and he could not believe the uncommon changes that took place, and I learned that the change that happens is a matter of leadership ideology.